this was blessed by pope benedict xvi. and that's the part of the long-term and the short-term in hoves and the resigning changed everything. >> tucker: we've read again and again, hundreds of years before the pope resigned from office. does it change the office? >> we don't know, that's the long-term effect. will people still view the papacy as infallible, is this sort of divine right. all of these things are going to swirl around the papacy. we don't know those long-term effects. what we do know is that on thursday, at 8 p.m., when the pope leaves office and the papal seat is vacant and the cardin cardinal college will take care of the nuts and bolts, keep the lights on and the water running and all of this sort of basic things of the vatican and that will run. the church will now be run by the college of cardinals and that they will start meetings for the general congregation meeting. general congresses, rather. and then they will start talking about when they have a conclave because they can change the rules. right now